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Haifa University - An International Disgrace

by Barry Chamish

August 27, 2006

One of the tragedies of the recent war is that Haifa University was not razed to the ground by Hizbollah. We can only ask them to aim better in the next round.

You see, Haifa University is home to the mass libeler Steven Plaut. And he just disgraces the "good" name of the school on a daily basis. I am one victim of his favorite slander, that of calling innocent people "neo-Nazis." Note how Haifa University tolerated his humiliation in an Israeli court:

FULL COMPLAINT SENT TO PLAUT'S EMPLOYER:

Prof. Maussner,

If you think the University of Haifa has been humiliated by its professor Steven Plaut, I assure you that unless you take proper disciplinary steps against him, the recent publicity will be viewed as mild. I remind you that he called a fellow professor a "Holocaust denier" and was punished by an Israeli court for doing so.

From Haaretz:

U.S.-born professor guilty of libeling colleague

By Ira Moskowitz

Haifa University economist Steven Plaut was convicted last week of libeling a fellow academic, Neve Gordon of Ben-Gurion University's Department of Politics and Government, and ordered to pay the plaintiff NIS 80,000 in compensation plus NIS 15,000 in legal fees. Plaut, who teaches in the Graduate School of Business Administration, has called Gordon a "fanatic anti-Semite" and a "Judenrat wannabe." Such statements overstep the bounds of free speech and constitute libel, Nazareth Magistrate's Court Judge Reem Naddaf ruled last week.

This Plaut has not only called me a "Neo-nazi" on innumerable occasions, against all the codes of the internet, he has built a web site in my name humiliating me to the world. Please DO visit www.barry-chamish.com to see his work.

I now demand that the University of Haifa take the proper course of action against its obsessed and ill professor. The following letter is being forwarded to attorney Dov Even-Or:

If you don't take the proper action action against your employee, you will be considered responsible for the actions he took in your employ. The site must come down within a week or the University's good name will be widely tarnished. Plaut will lie and say the site is not his idea. Now you must act like a person in your position must act and reject the lies. For now, I ask for your patience. Please read the following internet reports, understand how Plaut is ruining the University of Haifa's reputation among thinkers worldwide and take proper action for your university.

Best, Barry Chamish

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So, bear with me until the end and do read my announcements. Watch him destroy Haifa University's reputation wherever thinkers gather. And once you get the idea, write support@dotster.com and demand that his phoney site with the phoney address and phoney phone number be removed.

This week the domain of my name, that went to a radical website, www.barrychamish.com was returned by godaddy to my ownership. It is time the domain in my name, to Plaut's phoney site, be reverted by dotster to my ownership - and perhaps an attorney will help me out. Write them, please.

But first get to know a very sick "professor" from an equally ill university:

[http://www.friendsofliberty.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2812]

In response to my story -- taken from my blog and posted on the IndyMedia site without my knowledge -- it appears Bukay elicited (or inspired) the vicious behavior of one Dr. Steven Plaut, a former American, now Israeli settler and also an academic at the University of Haifa . . .

"My own home university, the University of Haifa, has been the scene in recent days of a saga of leftist campus McCarthyism. It all began when a professor of Middle East political science, David Bukay, was accused by an Arab student activist, who was not even formally registered in Bukay's class, a student active in a student communist organization, of making derogatory comments in class about Arabs," Plaut wrote, and then made a reference me, making sure to include a lethal dose of slander that is typical of his modus operandi:

"The allegations were then planted in a local newspaper, and reported in the Arab press. Then one of the Cockburn Cockroaches, a regular columnist on Counterpunch with views about Jews resembling those of neonazis, started spreading the allegations about the internet. Kurt Nimmo is an unemployed New Mexico photographer-wannabe who writes crackpot articles for Counterpunch and also for the neonazi web site www.rense.com. Nimmo routinely refers to all Jews as 'Zionists', such as the new director of the World Bank, and Nimmo makes it clear all "Zionists" need to be shipped off in cattle cars to nice camps.

I wrote the good professor and asked him to document where I have claimed "all 'Zionists' need to be shipped off in cattle cars to nice camps," but naturally he did not respond. I consider this libel -- but as we know, the laws are sketchy at best when it comes to the internet.

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Now look what I am too dignified to publish ... for now:

"I was a woman in Plaut's class who was appalled enough by him to leave ..."

We'll just stick with the hard facts. Look how the professor disgraces Haifa University and its staff to a world audience. This takes a while, so enjoy it slowly.

Now imagine a professor who fabricates e-mail addresses, websites and user names to spread slanders in Israel. Soak in the lies and never even try to justify the immorality of the deceit no matter who it was aimed against:

[http://student.cs.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/authors.php?auid=2095]

Plaut's spoofing and spamming activities:

Messages posted on 13 April 2004 to the ALEF electronic discussion forum (which is based at the University of Haifa) seem to indicate something about Plaut's mentality. These messages, which were posted to ALEF by somebody else and which seem to report on an email conversation that Plaut had with someone who was banned from the ALEF forum for excessive spamming, seem to indicate that Plaut boasted about stealing the ALEF membership list so that messages could be sent to ALEF members without being passed through the ALEF system. Specifically, Plaut seems to have written the following. The typographical errors appeared in the original:

I stoll their membership list. If you want to sen dthings to the whole list, use any email and send to: (via BCC so they do not know what you are doing):
Put the alef address in the header and write (alef) before subject and they will think it is coming thru their list!


He also seemed to be connected with somebody called Rocky, who, pretending to be a pro-Zionism Palestinian living in the West Bank, used the pseudonym "Yusuf" to plague the ALEF list with racist emails until he was excluded from the forum. Look at Rocky's description to see how Rocky finally made a mistake which spilled the beans.
[http://student.cs.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/authors.php?auid=5008]

Rocky:

Rocky, apparently a friend of Steven Plaut (certainly a fellow conspirator), is a Zionist idiot who harassed the ALEF electronic discussion forum for a period during the Autumn of 2004. Rocky masqueraded as a pro-Zionist Palestinian Arab living in the West Bank, using the pseudonyms "Yusuf Abdullah" and "Yusuf Chouri" for this invented persona.

Unfortunately for himself and for Plaut, Rocky screwed up, as he confesses in the first email quoted below, which he sent to Plaut but which he accidentally copied to all the people named in the cc (carbon-copy distribution) list for the message. One of the recipients, Yael Korin, copied it to the ALEF forum. Rocky must have been very het up when he sent this email, because, when sending it, he repeated the same error that he admits in the email -- that is, he copied what was intended to be a private conspiratorial message to many of the people who were the intended victims of his conspiracy.

Incidentally, Rocky's repeated use of the acronym "BBC" below is incorrect -- it should be "BCC" or "bcc" (blind carbon-copy distribution). Coming on top of the fact that his attempted scam was based on the use of bcc distribution, Rocky's not knowing the correct name for the feature is just one more indication of the fact that he is a schmuck. Dr. Plaut really should choose his fellow conspirators more carefully.

The emphasis on blind carbon-copy (bcc) is especially interesting because it is reminiscent of an instruction that Plaut had given a few months earlier: in April 2004, Plaut had boasted that he had stolen the ALEF emailing list and said that the best way to fool ALEF subscribers into believing that they were receiving messages from the ALEF server was to use bcc when sending out mass-mailings -- see the biographical entry for Plaut.

Anyhow, here is the email in which Rocky confesses his mistake to Steven Plaut. The typographical errors appeared in the original:

Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:47:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Yusuf Jones
Subject: Ohhhh, Nooooooo
To: Steven_Plaut@yahoo.com
Cc: tikva20@zahav.net.il, tiyaron@hazorea.org.il, trn1@zahav.net.il, tuviab@013.net, tuviab@013.net.il, tzfati@cc.huji.ac.il, uridavis@actcom.co.il, urih@babel.ling.upenn.edu, weltmann@techunix.technion.ac.il, wokoeck@post.tau.ac.il, wollin@netvision.net.il, yamitay@gvulot.org.il, ye_harel@netvision.net.il, ykorin@ucla.edu, yossida@oumail.openu.ac.il, zaid@pioneersofchange.net, zalman.amit@concordia.ca, zapata@xs4all.nl, ziegler@techunix.technion.ac.il, zviwir@swipnet.se, a_barzilai@haaretz.co.il, ag@omsoft.com, agora@algonet.se, ahfiras@swissonline.ch, ariehnyc@prodigy.net
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Steven,

It just happened. I may have ****ed up royally. I just sent out my first batch of "[ALEF] Get that monkey off my back" emails. My first attempts at sending them as BBC all failed. I got the message "There was a problem. Your BBC contains too many addresses." In the past I was able to have up to 25 BBCs per each mailing. SO I reducedc it to 20... then 15... then a dozen and still got the error message. So I transferred the addresses from BBC to CC and was able to send off all 25 of them.

Then it hit me! I forgot to remove YOUR name from the list so your email went out with those first 25. I'm usually very careful about things like that which is why I generally only use BBC. But my mind is pre-occupied with so many other things that need to be done that I got careless.

I havonly sent out those first 25 emails. I won't send out the remainder. I hope this will not cause a problem.

Sorry, Rocky

Apparently, Rocky's above email was triggered by the mistake that he had made, a few minutes earlier, when he sent the following email. Again, the typographical errors appeared in the original:

Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:41:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Yusuf Jones
Subject: [ALEF] Get That Monkey Off My Back!
To: steven_Plaut@yahoo.com
Cc: tikva20@zahav.net.il, tiyaron@hazorea.org.il, trn1@zahav.net.il, tuviab@013.net, tuviab@013.net.il, tzfati@cc.huji.ac.il, uridavis@actcom.co.il, urih@babel.ling.upenn.edu, weltmann@techunix.technion.ac.il, wokoeck@post.tau.ac.il, wollin@netvision.net.il, yamitay@gvulot.org.il, ye_harel@netvision.net.il, ykorin@ucla.edu, yossida@oumail.openu.ac.il, zaid@pioneersofchange.net, zalman.amit@concordia.ca, zapata@xs4all.nl, ziegler@techunix.technion.ac.il, zviwir@swipnet.se, a_barzilai@haaretz.co.il, ag@omsoft.com, agora@algonet.se, ahfiras@swissonline.ch, ariehnyc@prodigy.net
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I strongly suspect that my Hotmail account was sabotaged by Ran HaCohen. You know. The Ran HaCohen who endorses Hizbollah attacks on Northern Israel. The help prevent this from happening again, the good people at Yahoo have installed a security wall (actually, it's an electronic fence) around my new account. They agree that an Israel-supporting Arab's voice is a terrible thing to waste.

Re: Arab Fiddle While Nablus Burns"

I know there's plenty of accusatory middle fingers pointed at the IDF for making that Arab play "Chopsticks" on his fiddle. From what I can see, they only wanted to be sure there were no rocket launchers, small nuclear devices or perhaps a half dozen Arab midgets with rocks inside his case. This was a defensive move, pure and simple. But the pro-Arab propagandists and certain Jewish intellectual professors connected the dots and saw a similarity between Jews made to play at death camps.

This was not the case at that checkpoint. If you were to look closely at photos, you'd see quite clearly that there was a hat [with "Go Red Socks" on it] at this Arab's dusty sandals and inside that hat was quite a significant collection of Israeli sheckels. The man was not there being humiliated. He was there trying to make a few bucks! What next? Perhaps Ran HaCohen at the end of a monkey chain playing Richard Wagner tunes?

Peace. Shalom. Salam.

Yusuf, your token Arab who adores Israel.

The email just quoted was triggered by the fact that Ran HaCohen had complained to Microsoft about the use of a hotmail account, , to send the racist email quoted below to the ALEF forum. Microsoft disabled that account on 8 December 2004, because it violated the Hotmail Terms of Use. This upset Rocky, leading to the sequence of emails from Rocky to Plaut quoted above.

Two days before Rocky sent the sequence of emails quoted above, he had sent the following piece to his list of ALEF subscribers. This email, which was sent by Rocky using the pseudonym "Yusuf Abdullah", was prompted by the fact that, after repeated violations, his previous "Yusuf Chouri" persona had been excluded from the ALEF forum.

From: "Yusuf Abdullah"
To: dseps@yahoo.com
Subject: [ALEF] Arabs 4 Israel .. Including Me
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:40:50 -0500

I nearly s**t out my Arab pancreas when I was sent a link to this page! "Arabs for Israel" http://www.arabsforisrael.com/pages/1/

I hate to say this but these guys make most of the [ALEF] crew look like [PFLP] supporters.

Hey, don't take this remark personally for I truly wish to have my [ALEF] membership re-established [ASAP]. I ask that you please put in a few good words for me.

Peace. Shalom. Salam,
Yusuf

A few days earlier, Rocky, still using his earlier "Yusuf Chouri" persona, had sent the following email to Avraham Oz, moderator of the ALEF forum, complaining abut the fact that, finally, "Yusuf" had been excluded from the forum, after ignoring repeated requests to abide by the rules of the forum. Again, the typographical errors appeared in the original:

From: "yusuf chouri"
Date: 03:03:59 GMT+02:00 2 =E3=F6=EE=E1=F8 2004
To: alef@list.haifa.ac.il
Subject: [ALEF] "How Dare You!"

How dare ALEF terminate my membership as a free Arab man and scholar and deny me the right to post commentary onto the ALEF site!

Do you not like what a free-thinking, educated Arab has to say? Must I agree and march lockstep with your anti-Zionist views? Can I not admire brave Jews who struggle daily against both external treats and threats by its very own citizens?

Yesterday, a certain Yael Korin wrote the following message to ALEF members. "I do believe that this address [yusef_chouri@hotmail.com] belong to a provocateur, that has taken up a middle eastern sounding name, so they could pretend to be someone they are not."

First of all, I use the name, Yusuf Chouri, to keep my true identity secret for I live in what you call the "occupied territories" and would certainly be branded as a collaborator. You see, I see it differently than my fellow Palestinians. I see Arab murderers and thieves as occupying=A0your land. Further, were it not for Arab thugs, my famil;y and I would be fully employed and living more comfortably than we are now under Fatah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas.

Secondly, who does Yael Korin think she is lecturing me about pretending to be someone I are not? I have attached a photo of Yael Korin pretending to be an Arab when, in fact, she was born a Jew! She even wrapped on a kaffiya! And you think I am the one with a problem!

You think I am the one with a sick, dual personality. You think I am the enemy?

There are others among you that deserve to be investigated. People like that flunky Marxist, anti-Semite, anti-Zionist professor Ran Greenstein at some backwater South African university. Now that he's abandoned Israel, moved thousands of miles away and married a shvastse, does he have the right to cast shame on Israel? Shouldn't he more concerned about trying not to be eaten by the local cannibals? And, speaking of local cannibals, do any of his students know how to read? Why is he allowed to spew hatred against Israel while I cannot spew love and admiration for the Israeli people? What, may I ask, is ALEF's purpose? To make Israel safer or to denegrate her at every turn?

In conclusion, I ask that you reinstate me onto your ALEF group. I also appeal directly to Avraham "Oz", the wizard who created the ALEF group. Without his personal efforts to bring together Jews for Jihad, how would the world understand why more Jews are in therapy than any other group on the face of the earth. Continuing along this line of thought, I cannot help wonder if they make explosive belts in his size.

I look forward to my re-instatement into ALEF. A letter of apology would be appreciated but not expected.

Peace. Shalom. Salam.
Yusuf Chouri

The email above, which reeks of racism, is a good example of the kind of stuff that Rocky, using the pseudonym "Yusuf Chouri", had been previously sending to the ALEF forum and for which he had been removed from the forum. Its use of the word "shvastse" (presumably a typo for "shvartse", Yiddisch for "black") is just yet another giveaway of that fact that, while he pretends to be a Palestinian Arab, he is basically someone whose English is laced with Yiddisch -- he would appear to be a Jewish American.


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Now look at this remarkable exchange, sent to me. The reader merely suggested that Plout appear on Tamar Yonah's radio show on Arutz Sheva to explain his views, because she often has me as his guest. What is Plout's answer? He calls Tamar "mentally ill."

I asked Plaut if he'd be prepared to be interviewed on Tamar Yona's show. This was his reply!!

--- Steven Plaut splaut@econ.haifa.ac.il wrote:
"I do not debate with the mentally ill."
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FINALLY. My response in a proper forum:

The Jerusalem Post

February 2, 2006
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1138622531035&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
by Barry Chamish

As Israel approached the 10th anniversary of the Rabin assassination, Yediot Ahronot published a survey which showed that 35 percent of Israelis did not believe the government's version of the murder. Discounting the Arab sector, which has almost no knowledge of the issue, close to half of all Israeli Jews believe or suspect the government is lying to them about the circumstances of Rabin's demise.

Just previous to the release of the poll, long and, I would say, respectful features about me were printed in a wide variety of Hebrew publications including Anashim (People), ShofarNews and Ma'ariv. In the wake of the poll, I was invited to appear on four television programs in a week, including the very staid and establishment "London & Kirschenbaum" and "Hok Vetzedek" (Law and Justice).

And why not? A good portion of the reason for the poll's result was directly attributable to my book, "Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin?", which has sold over 34,000 copies in six languages.

I have achieved that elusive prize which escapes almost many Anglo writers: widespread recognition by mainstream Hebrews peaking Israelis. Not a bad achievement for someone who dared to write that Yigal Amir did not murder Yitzhak Rabin.

It is this cultural breakthrough that may have generated some resentment. I've been "accused" of writing about U.F.O.s -- a heinous crime if there ever was one.

From 1987-99, Israel saw a barrage of unexplained aerial phenomena, all highly publicized by the Hebrew media. Using ethical journalistic standards, I documented the events and received worldwide recognition for my efforts. Four episodes of the NBC-TV program Sightings were dedicated to my discoveries, and in 1999, Fox-TV devoted a full half hour of prime time to my work. I'm very proud of this period of my career but the phenomena stopped and I haven't written a word on the subject in six years.

The next criticism of me is so slanderous that I have actually sued one obsessive accuser: that is the absurd charge that I am a Holocaust denier.

Type my name into Google and you will find that my work appears on the Internet 71,100 times. A few of those sites are run by the deniers. Talk about guilt by association. I have no control over the Internet and anyone who finds my writing useful can copy and paste it into their sites.

As Yaacov Levi, who moderated a pro-Israel Internet discussion group and looked into the issue noted: "[Chamish] is always identified as pro-Israel and a Holocaust 'believer'. They quote him simply because he raises questions looking for accountability from the Israeli government. What a concept!"

"I also checked out other Web sites of the revisionist genera, they ALL cite him as pro-Israel and anti-revisionist. Not a one made any tiny effort to identify him as an ally".

I also wrote to the editors of several of the sites asking them to confirm the obvious. Jeff Rense, who incidentally is not in my view a denier, but nonetheless sure doesn't like Zionism, wrote: "At no time, never once, has Mr. Chamish ever solicited the posting of his work on my site of rense.com".

ONE OF the errors of literally all Israeli writers in English is that they restrict their audiences to like-minded readers. My audience runs the gamut of contemporary thinking and by also entering the homes of the enemy, I have neutralized much anti-Semitism worldwide. I do this indirectly by exposing the crimes of those in power who have brought us "peace", and, I insist, are endangering the existence of our state.

What has also attracted so much reader loyalty is that the "absurd" claims I made back in the Oslo days have came true. And the "absurd" claims of my latest book, "Shabtai Tzvi, Labor Zionism and the Holocaust" will likewise, all prove to be accurate in time.

Permit me to present a few examples of prescience:

Six years ago, I warned my readers not to vote Ariel Sharon. I insisted he was installed in the Israeli Right to destroy it from within and that he would immediately appoint Shimon Peres as his foreign minister.

In my latest book, I claim that Ofra Haza did not die of A.I.D.S. but was poisoned. Three months ago Haza's sister and her attorney Rami Tzuberi appeared on the T.V. program Mishal Ham with medical documentation alleging Ofra Haza was poisoned. Both demanded her exhumation and a reinvestigation of the circumstances of her demise.

One of the central points of my book "Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin?", was that Rabin was not shot twice in the back as the government concluded, but was actually shot three times, the deadly wound coming from the front.

On November 3 last year, Channel 2 spent two hours -- I would say -- unintentionally vindicating me in a documentary. The documentary makers examined Rabin's clothing and said they found the third bullet hole in the front of his clothing.

So sorry for being right.
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AND THERE IS MORE. PLOOT is in the pay of one Daniel Pipes of the CFR. His style is all over the net. When he writes a phoney letter, or makes a fake phone call to a radio show such as Zev Brenner's, he invariably claims to be from Miami. His nutsy style is found on Amazon and even Wikopedia. Now shouldn't they know about this whirly-bird? Shouldn't they know the gift Haifa University shares with the world?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Chamish

This page is daily hit up and re-edited, and used as a page to fight a war pro and against slander of you; then someone will edit it in your favor, then a slanderer will get on and trash you. It happens all day long, back and forth.

It was suggested you write them and say that you are a private individual and a page is not necessary and you object to what is being done to you as a result of this; also, it is being used to slander you and is not all true, and you can request it be edited to be informational only and then locked down, or else removed altogether.

Their contact page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us

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